3 ATB formations thread
Here is the 352 thread from 19, so I wanted to keep it running in 20 as well. Most likely I`ll build 352 again, although I also want to give another try to 3142 this year.
Looking forward to hear from any 3 ATB fans in this thread!
September 17, 2019 11:30PM Posted in Ultimate Team General Discussion
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newguy replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 18, 2019 7:49AM
I usually use 41212(2) and am thinking of trying something different for the start of Fifa 20. Which 3 atb would you guys suggest? I will probably play mostly squad battles at the start.
12:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
lfcsuiteynwa replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 18, 2019 12:05AM
3412 is massive in th3 demo. Most of your opponents would also not be used to playing against this formation due to the popularity of 4231 or 41212. So I think it can work online. Only problem will be to find RM and LM with high stamina as with Fast Buildup they are constantly running up and down the pitch.
Any suggestions for LM and RM?
12:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
greif44 replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 25, 2019 2:56PM
EisenErmin wrote: »
Currently using this, works pretty good atm, playing in D4. Changed a bit my CTs and PIs that I used in 19. Start 4411 so everyone is on full chem.
I pulled Son, Wijnaldum, Ndombele and IF Malen so I built my squad around them. Very surprised with Van Aanholt, he plays much better than I expected. Not sure what my next improvement will be so I`ll stick with this squad for 1st WL.
@greif44
So do you mid sharing your tactics and instructions?
@EisenErmin sure, mate
Def: 5, 5, pressure on heavy tough
Off: 7, 6, possession
PIs: LM/RM - come back on defense, get in behind, cut inside
CDMs - balanced attack (need to experiment with different CDMs), cut passing lanes, cover center
STs - balanced width, stay forward, get in behind
CAM - balanced
Currently using this, works pretty good atm, playing in D4. Changed a bit my CTs and PIs that I used in 19. Start 4411 so everyone is on full chem.
I pulled Son, Wijnaldum, Ndombele and IF Malen so I built my squad around them. Very surprised with Van Aanholt, he plays much better than I expected. Not sure what my next improvement will be so I`ll stick with this squad for 1st WL.
@greif44
I've played ~30 or so Rivals games the last couple days.
The hardest game I ever had was with someone running that exact formation.
Has the front 3 ping pong from the 4-1-2-1-2(2)
The back 3 is solid.
The 2 DM's are a wall.
The wingers literally turn it in to a back 5 at times but then also end up in the box, they're way too effective/don't get drained enough on stamina.
Tempted to try it, I been playing with 4-3-3(2) only as that was my goal this year but not I miss having at least 1 striker partner OR a CAM, but then again my squads are just packed ones with no one overly good and I feel like the 4-3-3(2) needs pretty good CM's to be truly competitive
@RTG20 yeah mate, I've been playing 352 since 17, it's actually very sweaty one as it plays like a mix of 41212, 4231 and 5212. Also many opponents are not used to the way it plays in game.
Defending might be a bit challenging if you've never played it, but overall for me it's much easier to defend with 3 atb than with any other.
It might be hard to play vs some 433s though so usually I have one of my custom tactics slots set to 442 or 41212.
12:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
greif44 replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 25, 2019 1:07AM
Currently using this, works pretty good atm, playing in D4. Changed a bit my CTs and PIs that I used in 19. Start 4411 so everyone is on full chem.
I pulled Son, Wijnaldum, Ndombele and IF Malen so I built my squad around them. Very surprised with Van Aanholt, he plays much better than I expected. Not sure what my next improvement will be so I`ll stick with this squad for 1st WL.
12:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
greif44 replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 18, 2019 2:31PM
I usually use 41212(2) and am thinking of trying something different for the start of Fifa 20. Which 3 atb would you guys suggest? I will probably play mostly squad battles at the start.
352 is most solid for me
3421 is fun with ST playing as false 9 (Mertens was my favorite player in this role in 19).
12:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
greif44 replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 18, 2019 12:19AM
Renamed123456 wrote: »As you may remember i was on that 352 last year too, though i eventually switched out. Looking back at 19, it was probably my favourite period when i was using it.
Right at the end i switched back to 3atb.
If i bother with 20 i plan on trying to move forward with my 3atb systems, and potentionally make a whole gameplan set of 3atb.
So if i do cave and bother with 20, i look forward to catching you with some 3atb chat. But i may be leaving here also.
Sure mate. 20 should be fun for at least first couple weeks
12:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
greif44 replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 18, 2019 12:15AM
lfcsuiteynwa wrote: »3412 is massive in th3 demo. Most of your opponents would also not be used to playing against this formation due to the popularity of 4231 or 41212. So I think it can work online. Only problem will be to find RM and LM with high stamina as with Fast Buildup they are constantly running up and down the pitch.
Any suggestions for LM and RM?
basically there are 2 options: use fullbacks at RM/LM or normal wingers. Usually fullbacks can't shoot and not many have decent dribbling; normal wingers have shooting, skill moves etc but lack defending abilities.
There are some all-rounders like, for example, Perisic - good attacking stats and decent physicality.
In 19 I played most of the time with various versions of Perisic + Cancelo and this winger + fullback duo on the wings worked really good for me so I might use similar combo this year.
12:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
greif44 replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 18, 2019 12:09AM
The 3412 plays pretty nice in the demo, may not online but I guess we'll see
3412 is massive in th3 demo. Most of your opponents would also not be used to playing against this formation due to the popularity of 4231 or 41212. So I think it can work online. Only problem will be to find RM and LM with high stamina as with Fast Buildup they are constantly running up and down the pitch.
3412 and 352 were very similar in 18 and 19, I preferred 352 because it was a bit more defensive taking into account that I always played with at least one attacking CDM
3 ATB were viable in online modes 17, 18 and 19 so I'll keep using them (I barely touch SB unless there's an objective).
Building the squad early after release might be a bit challenging though. Stamina on LM/RM is not really an issue as they get subbed around 60 min anyways.
12:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
deang07 replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 18, 2019 7:02AM
3412 if u use def mind wingers or wing backs.
352 if you want extra def support from cdms so u can play more attacking widemen .
im unsure yet but deffo using 3atb .
loved 352 last yr and it wasnt even that great but in demo and beta it was very good
12:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Riotiga replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 17, 2019 11:46PM
3412 is massive in th3 demo. Most of your opponents would also not be used to playing against this formation due to the popularity of 4231 or 41212. So I think it can work online. Only problem will be to find RM and LM with high stamina as with Fast Buildup they are constantly running up and down the pitch.
12:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Renamed123456 replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 18, 2019 2:03AM
looking at 352 bundes perisic will be great as ever
Perisic 352 tip: when it comes time to make subs, you can always move him to CAM (who likely needs subbing) and bring on subs for your wingbacks.
This essentially gives you an "extra" sub.
12:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Renamed123456 replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 18, 2019 12:03AM
As you may remember i was on that 352 last year too, though i eventually switched out. Looking back at 19, it was probably my favourite period when i was using it.
Right at the end i switched back to 3atb.
If i bother with 20 i plan on trying to move forward with my 3atb systems, and potentionally make a whole gameplan set of 3atb.
So if i do cave and bother with 20, i look forward to catching you with some 3atb chat. But i may be leaving here also.
12:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
RTG20 replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 25, 2019 2:21PM
Currently using this, works pretty good atm, playing in D4. Changed a bit my CTs and PIs that I used in 19. Start 4411 so everyone is on full chem.
I pulled Son, Wijnaldum, Ndombele and IF Malen so I built my squad around them. Very surprised with Van Aanholt, he plays much better than I expected. Not sure what my next improvement will be so I`ll stick with this squad for 1st WL.
@greif44
I've played ~30 or so Rivals games the last couple days.
The hardest game I ever had was with someone running that exact formation.
Has the front 3 ping pong from the 4-1-2-1-2(2)
The back 3 is solid.
The 2 DM's are a wall.
The wingers literally turn it in to a back 5 at times but then also end up in the box, they're way too effective/don't get drained enough on stamina.
Tempted to try it, I been playing with 4-3-3(2) only as that was my goal this year but not I miss having at least 1 striker partner OR a CAM, but then again my squads are just packed ones with no one overly good and I feel like the 4-3-3(2) needs pretty good CM's to be truly competitive
12:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Pikandel replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 20, 2019 5:11PM
Made my 352 starter squad:
L. De Jong, IF Malen
Boetius
Promes, Hendrix, Van De Beek, Hateboer
Ake, De Vrij, Veltman
Zoet.
Last year I used to play with 2 H/M players on the flanks, but Promes (H/M) and Hateboer (M/H) is a really Good combo aswell!
12:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Markman007 replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 20, 2019 4:59PM
lfcsuiteynwa wrote: »3412 is massive in th3 demo. Most of your opponents would also not be used to playing against this formation due to the popularity of 4231 or 41212. So I think it can work online. Only problem will be to find RM and LM with high stamina as with Fast Buildup they are constantly running up and down the pitch.
Any suggestions for LM and RM?
Spinazzola has good stats for an LM in 3 ATB.
12:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
EisenErmin replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 25, 2019 1:17PM
Currently using this, works pretty good atm, playing in D4. Changed a bit my CTs and PIs that I used in 19. Start 4411 so everyone is on full chem.
I pulled Son, Wijnaldum, Ndombele and IF Malen so I built my squad around them. Very surprised with Van Aanholt, he plays much better than I expected. Not sure what my next improvement will be so I`ll stick with this squad for 1st WL.
@greif44
So do you mid sharing your tactics and instructions?
12:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Bevlarrrr replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 20, 2019 5:37PM
Made my 352 starter squad:
L. De Jong, IF Malen
Boetius
Promes, Hendrix, Van De Beek, Hateboer
Ake, De Vrij, Veltman
Zoet.
Last year I used to play with 2 H/M players on the flanks, but Promes (H/M) and Hateboer (M/H) is a really Good combo aswell!
How’s Prome’s getting on for you ? Do you have him on come back on defence ? Only played a few games but been playing 352 and 4411 so still unsure
12:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Bevlarrrr replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 20, 2019 11:28AM
Got a team built ready to go. Currently 4411 but just unsure what to actually play in game. Torn between 4411, 352, 41212(2) or even a 433 formation whether it be the (4) or (5). Anyone played many games yet with 352 or even a 3 ATB formation ?
12:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Bevlarrrr replied to 3 ATB formations thread on September 20, 2019 11:28AM
Got a team built ready to go. Currently 4411 but just unsure what to actually play in game. Torn between 4411, 352, 41212(2) or even a 433 formation whether it be the (4) or (5). Anyone played many games yet with 352 or even a 3 ATB formation ?
12:00 am, November 8, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion