433(x) / non-meta discussion thread - (5) CTs and mini guide in first post
Custom Tactics 26th October
Current tactic I'm using
This is a link to my YouTube where I upload probably too many 433(5) matches.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiObApQXiySha3QewTvDl6g
@EisenErmin mini guide
General thoughts about the 433(5) and other 433 variations (@EisenErmin)
Might be helpful for “new” players and “veterans”
The 433(5) is perfect for buildup play at slow or normal pace (not rushing it) and getting all players involved. I average possession of 60% (up to 70%) and accuracy of >85% (up to >90%). More often than not I am looking for the best chance to finish and I do pass a lot even inside the box when I see an open teammate (don’t get me wrong, it is not passing without any purpose or timewasting at all). The most important advice I can give is: LET GO THE SPRINT BUTTON in buildup play. It really helps in spotting save passing options and helps your teammates to make deadly runs.
Some “golden rules” for the 433(3) that will improve your game a lot if you force yourself to do it. Don’t fall into the usual habits. Instead play focused and try to implement some of the following tips into your game. Results don`t matter at first, it is just about getting better in certain areas. The wins will come, trust me.
A) Don’t sprint in attack unless you have a huge opening/space. In buildup, in the box, in tight areas,…don’t sprint!!!! If in doubt = don’t sprint. If you lost the ball = more often than not sprinting was the reason for it. By not sprinting you might miss a breakaway or opportunity to counter-attack once or twice per game, but you will keep the ball 20 times per game where you would have lost it when sprinting. That’s 20 times were you give the opponent the opportunity to come at your goal!! Try it out: Play a game and NEVER sprint at all (only in defending sprinting is allowed). You will be surprised how good your passing, vision and chance creation will be.
B. ) Pay attention which player the opponent is controlling. That’s way easier when not sprinting btw. If your opponent is manually tracking runners = you can just move foreward/looking on the radar/planning your next move/…. as your player is not pressured at all. That’s huge this year as AI defending is not aggressive at all, leaving you unpressured almost always if the opponent is not putting pressure on the ball manually. If the opponent is pressuring/attacking your player = you can simply pass it around. If the opponent is not tracking runners = jackpot, as you can play a through ball and your runner is in behind. Opponents that defend like last year (AI defending and sitting deep with everyone) just rely on your mistake to give away the ball by making a stupid pass or running into them. Don’t do them the favour. My mantra was and still is: “If they don’t want the ball, they don’t get the ball”
C) Dictate the speed of the game. Mix it up, play safe and then risky depending on the situation. Don´t be fooled in always going foreward. Passing sideways or backwards is great for keeping the ball, to have a look at the radar and your players on the pitch and then start the attack again. The 433(5) is a passing formation like no other, so make use of it. A high speed box to box game is not what you want for 90 minutes.
D) Play 1-2-3 passes, not only 1-2 passes. The 433(5) allows lots of really nice passing combinations. Example: 1-2 pass is CM to CF to CM while 1-2-3 pass is CM to CF to RW to CM. You can involve even more players in one attacking sequence. Think ahead and don’t spam 1-2 passes without any purpose. The 433(5) is about outplaying the oposition, not about 1-2 spamming and 70% passing acuracy. (Of course go for the easy 1-2 pass if you have the chance to easily beat the defender.)
E) Be unpredictable: most opponents cover passing lanes now and if you pay attention you will notice were they move their player in certain areas. Exploit that! If you do them the favour to pass into their cover they will feel rewarded and keep doing so. If you mix it up, dribble or make a skill move or even shoot from long range from time to time, you keep them guessing and have to leave their own “comfort zone”. Same is true against players that move the GK. Don’t shoot were they most likely expect you to shoot. Make a ball roll, a fake shot or whatever you like and then shoot into wide open areas of the net.
F) Keep any eye for teammates and tap in goals. When in shooting situations right in front of the keeper and your teammate(s) are like 10 yards to the left or right(and not offside of course), just pass it to them for a tap in goal. I see so many players shooting instead of passing. Shooting may have a chance of 80% to get into the net, while a pass for an empty net tap in has 99% chance for a goal, what`s the right move here? Got it?
G) Don´t get isolated and don´t rush head first into 3 defenders Getting isolated with your player on the ball is quite easy to avoid if you have good vision and think ahead. But sometimes it is happening regardless. So if you are realizing that you got yourself isolated: stay calm, slow it down, use the close dribbling and protecting/shielding the ball and buy yourself some time to give your teammates a chance to come towards you for an easy pass or make runs into open space.
The other thing to avoid at all costs is running head first into a brick wall of opposition players. Every game you will see your (average) opponent sprinting with his striker into an area occupied by several of your players. The chance to benefit from doing so is very slim. Almost always you are going to lose the ball. Conclusion: If you are outnumbered pass it backwards or to the side instead of running into a dead end or even worse straight into the opposition for a turnover.
I hope that these thoughts are helpful and even though most of you already know these things in theory, but if you are honest: you (and me) will make bad decisions (often the same bad decisions over and over) each and every game even though you/we know better, right?
Try to work on some things here and there and your game will improve for sure.
Thanks for reading and may the 433(5) rule the Weekend League!
Initial Post
Might as well get this baby up and running while we're getting ready for release. Must admit the month or so off has given me a little of the buzz back for 20, although my experience in the beta has kinda dampened that enthusiasm somewhat. Still, no need to be angry about something that hasn't happened yet. Release versions (and early patches) have rendered beta and demo experiences null and void in previous years and no reason to think this year will be different.
As usual I'll be tinkering with the (5) as much as possible while also trying out other formations here and there. I used to also try out 4231 but its infamy as meta last year means I'm not so keen. I'll probably try out the 4411 versions as well.
Bring it on.
Current tactic I'm using
For the (5) I'm using
Poht
5/5
Balanced
6/4/3/3
LW: FR, GiB, SF
CF: F9
RW: FR, CS
CMs: GF, FR, CW
CDM: CPL, DBD, CC
FBs: Overlap
And at the start I put attacking full backs on in dpad tactics and turn it off if need to be more defensive.
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This is a link to my YouTube where I upload probably too many 433(5) matches.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiObApQXiySha3QewTvDl6g
@EisenErmin mini guide
General thoughts about the 433(5) and other 433 variations (@EisenErmin)
Might be helpful for “new” players and “veterans”
The 433(5) is perfect for buildup play at slow or normal pace (not rushing it) and getting all players involved. I average possession of 60% (up to 70%) and accuracy of >85% (up to >90%). More often than not I am looking for the best chance to finish and I do pass a lot even inside the box when I see an open teammate (don’t get me wrong, it is not passing without any purpose or timewasting at all). The most important advice I can give is: LET GO THE SPRINT BUTTON in buildup play. It really helps in spotting save passing options and helps your teammates to make deadly runs.
Some “golden rules” for the 433(3) that will improve your game a lot if you force yourself to do it. Don’t fall into the usual habits. Instead play focused and try to implement some of the following tips into your game. Results don`t matter at first, it is just about getting better in certain areas. The wins will come, trust me.
A) Don’t sprint in attack unless you have a huge opening/space. In buildup, in the box, in tight areas,…don’t sprint!!!! If in doubt = don’t sprint. If you lost the ball = more often than not sprinting was the reason for it. By not sprinting you might miss a breakaway or opportunity to counter-attack once or twice per game, but you will keep the ball 20 times per game where you would have lost it when sprinting. That’s 20 times were you give the opponent the opportunity to come at your goal!! Try it out: Play a game and NEVER sprint at all (only in defending sprinting is allowed). You will be surprised how good your passing, vision and chance creation will be.
B. ) Pay attention which player the opponent is controlling. That’s way easier when not sprinting btw. If your opponent is manually tracking runners = you can just move foreward/looking on the radar/planning your next move/…. as your player is not pressured at all. That’s huge this year as AI defending is not aggressive at all, leaving you unpressured almost always if the opponent is not putting pressure on the ball manually. If the opponent is pressuring/attacking your player = you can simply pass it around. If the opponent is not tracking runners = jackpot, as you can play a through ball and your runner is in behind. Opponents that defend like last year (AI defending and sitting deep with everyone) just rely on your mistake to give away the ball by making a stupid pass or running into them. Don’t do them the favour. My mantra was and still is: “If they don’t want the ball, they don’t get the ball”
C) Dictate the speed of the game. Mix it up, play safe and then risky depending on the situation. Don´t be fooled in always going foreward. Passing sideways or backwards is great for keeping the ball, to have a look at the radar and your players on the pitch and then start the attack again. The 433(5) is a passing formation like no other, so make use of it. A high speed box to box game is not what you want for 90 minutes.
D) Play 1-2-3 passes, not only 1-2 passes. The 433(5) allows lots of really nice passing combinations. Example: 1-2 pass is CM to CF to CM while 1-2-3 pass is CM to CF to RW to CM. You can involve even more players in one attacking sequence. Think ahead and don’t spam 1-2 passes without any purpose. The 433(5) is about outplaying the oposition, not about 1-2 spamming and 70% passing acuracy. (Of course go for the easy 1-2 pass if you have the chance to easily beat the defender.)
E) Be unpredictable: most opponents cover passing lanes now and if you pay attention you will notice were they move their player in certain areas. Exploit that! If you do them the favour to pass into their cover they will feel rewarded and keep doing so. If you mix it up, dribble or make a skill move or even shoot from long range from time to time, you keep them guessing and have to leave their own “comfort zone”. Same is true against players that move the GK. Don’t shoot were they most likely expect you to shoot. Make a ball roll, a fake shot or whatever you like and then shoot into wide open areas of the net.
F) Keep any eye for teammates and tap in goals. When in shooting situations right in front of the keeper and your teammate(s) are like 10 yards to the left or right(and not offside of course), just pass it to them for a tap in goal. I see so many players shooting instead of passing. Shooting may have a chance of 80% to get into the net, while a pass for an empty net tap in has 99% chance for a goal, what`s the right move here? Got it?
G) Don´t get isolated and don´t rush head first into 3 defenders Getting isolated with your player on the ball is quite easy to avoid if you have good vision and think ahead. But sometimes it is happening regardless. So if you are realizing that you got yourself isolated: stay calm, slow it down, use the close dribbling and protecting/shielding the ball and buy yourself some time to give your teammates a chance to come towards you for an easy pass or make runs into open space.
The other thing to avoid at all costs is running head first into a brick wall of opposition players. Every game you will see your (average) opponent sprinting with his striker into an area occupied by several of your players. The chance to benefit from doing so is very slim. Almost always you are going to lose the ball. Conclusion: If you are outnumbered pass it backwards or to the side instead of running into a dead end or even worse straight into the opposition for a turnover.
I hope that these thoughts are helpful and even though most of you already know these things in theory, but if you are honest: you (and me) will make bad decisions (often the same bad decisions over and over) each and every game even though you/we know better, right?
Try to work on some things here and there and your game will improve for sure.
Thanks for reading and may the 433(5) rule the Weekend League!
Initial Post
Might as well get this baby up and running while we're getting ready for release. Must admit the month or so off has given me a little of the buzz back for 20, although my experience in the beta has kinda dampened that enthusiasm somewhat. Still, no need to be angry about something that hasn't happened yet. Release versions (and early patches) have rendered beta and demo experiences null and void in previous years and no reason to think this year will be different.
As usual I'll be tinkering with the (5) as much as possible while also trying out other formations here and there. I used to also try out 4231 but its infamy as meta last year means I'm not so keen. I'll probably try out the 4411 versions as well.
Bring it on.
September 17, 2019 8:55PM Posted in