ICON SWAPS 2
Yes. My issue is with Icon Swaps 2. I have an unresolved case logged in my EA FIFA 20 account and want to know the best way to escalate the case. I'm fairly new to this new season objectives method that wasn’t being used in the last edition of FIFA. I probably played around 60 games with squads I didn't want to play with (at least 9 players from Serie A, Bundesliga, La Liga, Premier League, all who had to be from player packs / first owned. Then Les Bleus, which was 11 French players in your team).
However, I used those squads and lost many games, just to try to acquire the Icon Swaps 2 cards so I could exchange them for Icon Players. However, all those objectives disappeared! I continued playing with the current squad to get a 6th Icon Swaps 2 card despite not knowing FIFA had closed those objectives and made new ones for Icon Swaps 3. I've now played a further 50 odd games to get Icon Swaps 3 cards.
I would have used my Icon Swaps 2 cards on time. However, unlike the Squad Building Challenge deadlines, which are clearly labelled in that section when you go on them / highlight them, as you could see from my screenshots, there is no clearly labelled deadline in the FUT Central section (it only lists the deadline for the featured objective in this section); there’s no clearly labelled deadline in the season objectives section when you highlight Icons Swaps Online I and Icon Swaps Online II either!
I’ve spent so many hours using squads I didn’t want to use just to get those Icons Swaps 2 rewards and I feel hard done by in not being able to clearly see when the season objectives change. I had to post on the FUT20 Facebook group to ask how I to find the deadline in the future. I see it in the top right of the screen in season objectives section now. But it’s still not very clear and easily missed since the information isn’t always there and rotates with other text.
I asked EA Help if I could use my Icon Swaps 2 cards I have / if not can they reward my account with the equivalent of them? Like an Icon Card I could have bought or coins of the amount to what I could have sold an icon player with those cards for? Something like this. Otherwise I’ve had 60 games worth of hours wasted!
However, after a long and laborious conversation with an operator, they said nothing can be done. I know this not to be true because in previous editions, when there has been errors or unclear objectives that have cost me time, money, coins etc they haver rewarded me with traceable packs as compensation and then I'm at least able to sell them for coins.
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If anyone knows of a quick way to be able to contact supervisors or higher management via email, please let me know or can any management staff correspond with me here?
- I'm guessing you can't. But my complaint is that if you can't, that's BS because as I've said I couldn't figure out where the deadline for Icon Swaps 2 was listed. It's not clear at all. See my screenshots! Of course I don't want to use those cards to play games! There were valid for the Icons SBCs and I could have acquired an Icon player worth 5 Icon Swaps 2 cards!
- Thank you for contacting EA HELP, my name is arman, may I start with your first name please?
arman
- Hi, my name is James Cooper
- Hey James, I hope you are doing well. I can see that you have contacted us regarding an issue related to FIFA 20. I request you to please elaborate so that I can help you with the best possible resolution.
arman
22:07
- Yes. My issue is with Icon Swaps 2. I'm fairly new to this new season objectives method. I probably played around 60 games with squads I didn't want to play with. However, I used those squads and lost many games, just to try to acquire the Icon Swaps 2 cards so I could exchange them for Icon Players. However, in the last week, all those objectives have disappeared! I continued playing with
22:11
- If I've got this correct, you are not able to complete the objectives for the icon swaps 2 because the objectives have disappeared. Right?
arman
22:13
- Give me one second, to explain everything clearly
- well
- give me one minute, to type it all out and explain myself
22:14
- Sure.
22:15
- Are we connected?
arman
22:19
- Yes
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- I'm typing it out in Word, in case I need to email this case in the future
22:20
- Yes. My issue is with Icon Swaps 2. I'm fairly new to this new season objectives method that wasn’t being used in the last game. I probably played around 60 games with squads I didn't want to play with (at least 9 players from Serie A, Bundesliga, La Liga, Premier League, all who had to be from player packs. Then Les Bleus, which was 11 French players in your tem). However, I used those squads and lost many games, just to try to acquire the Icon Swaps 2 cards so I could exchange them for Icon Players. However, in the last week, all those objectives have disappeared! I continued playing with the current squad to get a 6th Icon Swaps 2 card despite not knowing FIFA had closed those objectives and made new ones for Icon Swaps 3. I would have used my Icon Swaps 2 cards on time. However, unlike the Squad Building Challenge deadlines, which are clearly labelled in that section when you go on them / highlight them, as you can see from my screenshots, there is no clearly labelled deadline in the FUT Central section (it only lists the deadline for the featured objective in this section); there’s no clearly labelled deadline in the season objectives section when you highlight Icons Swaps Online I and Icon Swaps Online II either! I’ve spent so many hours using squads I didn’t want to use just to get those Icons Swaps 2 rewards and I feel hard done by in not being able to clearly see when the season objectives change. I had to post on the FUT20 Facebook group to ask how I to find the deadline in the future. I see it in the top right of the screen in season objectives section. But it’s still not very clear and easily missed since the information isn’t always there and rotates with other text. Can I use my Icon Swaps 2 cards I have / if not can you reward my account with the equivalent of them? Like an Icon Card they could have bought or coins of the amount to what I could have sold a player with those cards for? Something like this. Otherwise I’ve had 60 games worth of hours wasted!
22:21
- Oh! Alright. If I've got this correct, you will not be able t use the Icon swaps 2 card which you earned by playing squads however you are wondering if you can use them after the expiry of the objectives. Right?
arman
22:25
- I'm guessing you can't. But my complaint is that if you can't, that's BS because as I've said I couldn't figure out where the deadline for Icon Swaps 2 was listed. It's not clear at all. See my screenshots! Of course I don't want to use those cards to play games! There were valid for the Icons SBCs and I could have acquired an Icon player worth 5 Icon Swaps 2 cards!
22:27
- Alright. You were not aware about the deadline for the icon swaps 2 however that resulted in a situation where the SBC is expired and you don't have any option to do with them.
arman
22:30
- Exactly and it wasn't clear at all when the deadline for the icons swaps were. I've attached photos showing that. I now know where to look as the FIFA community has pointed this out now the deadline has passed so I don't mistake twice. But you should clearly list the deadline for them in the season objectives section like you do with the Live Squad Building Challenges
22:32
- Oh! Alright.
22:34
- Thank you for the information.
- Not only that, but in the last week, I've sold many first owned players that would have been eligible for the new Icons Swaps 3 objectives. I didn't think FIFA would simply repeat exactly the same objectives for Icon Swaps 3 as they've done for 2. So now, I can't even do Icon Swaps 3 online match objectives. Only the squad battle ones because they dont require first owned players. It's such a bad player experience when you waste people's time this much. Please can you find out what you can do about helping compensate me with something for my Icon Swaps 2 players. I have 5 and now can't use them to redeem Icon Players or coins.
22:35
- I know that this must be upsetting for you as you have earned these two cards after this much effort and the SBC expired however there is no need to worry, we will certainly check this out for you.
arman
22:36
- Thanks
22:37
- No worries.
- What I am going to do is that I will consult for the concern with my team for the best possible resolution. This might take me a few moments. Will that be okay with you?
arman
- Sure
22:38
- I'm playing the game now. So I will just do that and wait.
22:39
- Thank you for waiting!
22:41
- I truly appreciate the patience you have kept!
22:41
- I have consulted with my team and I can see that FIFA 20 is totally an automated game and the in game mechanism which is totally programmed in this way that we cannot make any of the manual changes in the game such as wins, losses, objectives and the in game currencies. We don't get any option to revert the changes done in the game.
arman
22:43
- Yes but you can compensate me with the equivalent of what I could have purchased in game with these Icon Swaps 2 cards. I had 5. So I could have acquired Bobby Moore or Frank Rijkaard. So you can reward one of them to my account OR credit my account with coins to the equivalent of what they're worth. I've checked in the transfer market and they're worth around 250000 coins at buy now value. Or you can reward me with player packs that are likely to provided players with a total resell value of 250000. Please explain that to your team and come back to me. Thanks.
22:47
- I will go ahead and check this out for you for sure.
22:49
- Thank you for waiting!
- I have checked with my team.
22:50
- My intention is not to keep you from something that you can have, had it been possible for me to process the request for you, then I wouldn't have given it a second thought. I hope that you will understand.
arman
22:51
- Well I'm sure your supervisors or senior management can organise whichever relevant department to assist her. I've had items credited in to my account in previous FIFA versions. Players or packs in to the store section etc
22:52
- I wish I would have been able to help you more as we also don't like to see our amazing players like yourself unsatisfied with our game rules,if you like I can surely share this as the feedback with our game team so that they can look into it for all the players.
22:55
- Please let me know if there is anything else that I can assist you with?
22:57
- Are we connected?
arman
23:00
- Yes
- "e in the game. arman 22:43 Yes but you can compensate me with the equivalent of what I could have purchased in game with these Icon Swaps 2 cards. I had 5. So I could have acquired Bobby Moore or Frank Rijkaard. So you can reward one of them to my account OR credit my account with coins to the equivalent of what they're worth. I've checked in the transfer market and they're worth around 250000 coins at buy now value. Or you can reward me with player packs that are likely to provided players with a total resell value of 250000. Please explain that to your team and come back to me. Thanks."
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- Relay this message to your supervisor
- I've been talking now for an hour. I'd rather not escalate this issue myself via email etc I understand you don't have the authority to sort this out yourself but your team can create a case and get back to me soon about my suggestions
23:02
- I wish we could be able to compensate you in this as the deadline was for all the players and if you have not completed the objective in time. I know that this won't be the answer you had been looking for but trust me had it been possible I would have surely done it for you even if it meant breaching my limitations or going beyond my ways as customer satisfaction what I am here for.
- Please let me know if there is anything else that I can help you with?
arman
- So you are saying you and your team aren't prepared to deal with my request?
23:03
- Saying NO is not something that we enjoy here. I am here to assist you, assisting a gamer always been a pleasure to me.
arman
23:04
- I've clearly established a valid point that FIFA have a responsibility to clearly communicate such deadlines for modes which cost players much valuable time using weaker squads! Yet they've failed to do so. Very clearly, I've shown that knowing where the deadline is, is impossible for new players to this mode! I didn't do the early season objectives in FIFA 20 and that's why when doing so now, I wasn't sure when the deadline was! It's not clear at all! We're going around in circles here!
23:05
- I have shared the information with you and I wish I could be able too compensate you for this however I have cross checked with my team for the compensation as well and informed the same to you as well. I can see that this conversation is going in circles, if there is anything else apart from this, please let me know otherwise I need to disconnect this chat.
23:07
- Are we connected?
arman
- OK I'll have to report this case again via email
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