Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad
They don't follow runners, the cbs and full backs play close to the side line, leaving massive gaps for opponent to play a Y-ball through the centre... This happened on average 8x per game.
Rather had it that they didn't do any gameplay updates...
I normally play quite attacking, with 20-25% posession around opponents box average per game and don't use skillmoves like Berbatov Spin to get in a position to finesse from edge. passes and don't use the tactics people copied from youtubers, like drop back and counter with Y or LB+Y balls. I could cope with the awful way people play the game, but since the update drop back even became more powerful, forwards now fall over with every B tackle, A balls have no power between 0-360 degrees and they lock on worse then before...
Why does EA have to give the awful players so much advantages, that the game is unplayable for anyone who tries to play normal football
October 31, 2019 11:15PM Posted in
rick72 replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 3:40PM
Knowlesdinho wrote: »I don't mind the game as it is.
I also don't mind the game as it is, preferring it post patch
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
protzbischof replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on October 31, 2019 11:32PM
The game is absolutely terrible right now. My defenders are acting like headless chicken. They cant mark players or mark runs. Patch has ruined the game. I was playing 4231 with attacking fullbacks leaving 3 players back and was doing fine with it. Now its impossible to defend with. At the same time its even harder to score the created chances. People who love to sit back and play narrow formation anti football are going to love this patch. Its 41212 only all over again in high divisions. Looks like its time to drop the game again pretty soon. No reason to keep putting up with it.
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
protzbischof replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 2:15PM
Der Tooldoktor wrote: »protzbischof wrote: »The game is absolutely terrible right now. My defenders are acting like headless chicken. They cant mark players or mark runs. Patch has ruined the game. I was playing 4231 with attacking fullbacks leaving 3 players back and was doing fine with it. Now its impossible to defend with. At the same time its even harder to score the created chances. People who love to sit back and play narrow formation anti football are going to love this patch. Its 41212 only all over again in high divisions. Looks like its time to drop the game again pretty soon. No reason to keep putting up with it.
I play 41212 narrow, but playing everything but defensive, do have my full backs to stay behind, same as cdm, but cam is set to stay up, as well as my strikers. Also play balanced or pressure on error with 5 bars depth
5 players sitting back is pretty defensive imo.
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
mfmaxpower replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 3:02PM
Agreed. They've totally botched defending in this game. The move to more manual defending made sense for FUT, but the positioning and intelligence of defenders is just awful, and FIFA now plays less like football than ever.
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
gorillabear replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 3:44PM
Knowlesdinho wrote: »I don't mind the game as it is.
I also don't mind the game as it is, preferring it post patch
Yeah, felt smoother to me. Dribbling felt good again
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
bigpokey24 replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 6:48PM
BARKER1991 wrote: »The people who don’t moan. Are those who get tanked by players who are good who are finally drawing and scraping wins now when there use to getting beat day in day out
Sooo, I didn’t understand anything of this.
Who’s the people that don’t moan again?
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
bigpokey24 replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 6:47PM
bigpokey24 wrote: »this forum should be renamed the FIFA whine forum, yall complain a lot ...just quit..... and move on to something else
Let’s all pretend it’s great...absolute tool
stop being sensitive
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
bigpokey24 replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 2:22PM
this forum should be renamed the FIFA whine forum, yall complain a lot ...just quit..... and move on to something else
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
SuperJames9005 replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on October 31, 2019 11:37PM
Most stupid patch ever. I was called a penalty when I am just containing. I don't even think I touched his attackers... Plus, everyone is skating
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Soulie_94 replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 1:00AM
**** **** game
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
SP300x replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on October 31, 2019 11:37PM
This game is so ****
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Retropoe82 replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 3:16PM
Manual defend. I'm not struggling i like it. all i've done since 18 is manual defend. Games not broke its most don't know how to defend now, relied heavily on ai too much 👍 to ea.
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Renamed123456 replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 3:35PM
Retropoe82 wrote: »Manual defend. I'm not struggling i like it. all i've done since 18 is manual defend. Games not broke its most don't know how to defend now, relied heavily on ai too much 👍 to ea.
Same here.
I've found issues with the defending a lot with player movements and blocks/tackles having nl effect.
But played against a friend yeterday and said my defending was really good and so difficult to break down or get a shot.
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
RedDevil123 replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 12:15AM
This is the worst it's been yet. Players feel like they are on ice and won't receive a pass without doing half a lap around the ball first. It's awful really.
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Knowlesdinho replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on October 31, 2019 11:41PM
I don't mind the game as it is.
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Kingyyy01 replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 3:07PM
All they need to do is go back to early release patch and it’s fixed, minus the rebounds & keepers, each patch has just made it worse and worse
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
FCBlunt replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 4:08PM
BARKER1991 wrote: »The people who don’t moan. Are those who get tanked by players who are good who are finally drawing and scraping wins now when there use to getting beat day in day out
Sooo, I didn’t understand anything of this.
Who’s the people that don’t moan again?
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
FCBlunt replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 3:52PM
protzbischof wrote: »Der Tooldoktor wrote: »protzbischof wrote: »The game is absolutely terrible right now. My defenders are acting like headless chicken. They cant mark players or mark runs. Patch has ruined the game. I was playing 4231 with attacking fullbacks leaving 3 players back and was doing fine with it. Now its impossible to defend with. At the same time its even harder to score the created chances. People who love to sit back and play narrow formation anti football are going to love this patch. Its 41212 only all over again in high divisions. Looks like its time to drop the game again pretty soon. No reason to keep putting up with it.
I play 41212 narrow, but playing everything but defensive, do have my full backs to stay behind, same as cdm, but cam is set to stay up, as well as my strikers. Also play balanced or pressure on error with 5 bars depth
5 players sitting back is pretty defensive imo.
It’s illegal to murk people like that
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Ellis_D replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 2:55PM
AndyisaGooden wrote: »I've had it with this game. Just put it up for sale on Ebay and I will never come back to it again. I might never even bother with another FIFA again.
I'm an half decent player - I won a first division title last year, and usually hover between divisions 1 and 2. I'm not someone who plays on it every day and when I do play it's normally a few games, sometimes up to ten in a a session. This year I have got up to Division 3 so far.
So I'm not the best in the world, but I win far more than I lose. But since the patch I have won 0, drawn 6 and lost 8. I've just had enough. They make defending more difficult every year despite the fact it's never been hard to score goals. I'm sick to death of my CB's just leaving gaping holes and just standing there. You can't control every player at once.
I know the best players will say it's fine, and it's great for them that they can defend well. But it's not like I'm a poor player, or inexperienced, I have played the game for 25/26 years. It's not like I haven't tried to improve, I've read numerous help threads, watched loads of videos. Just defending is ridiculous. I really feel they are alienating their millions of casual players by pandering to those who want full manual controls. It's too difficult and no fun anymore. It's also not realistic that if I'm not controlling that specific player he will just stand there and do nothing and let players jog past him with the ball so easily.
So, thanks EA. Not that you will listen. Your customer service is the worst I have ever experienced and you have finally lost this loyal fan for good.
Thank God Football Manager is out soon.
FM20 out now bro, get the beta
I know mate. My laptop is at a computer shop getting an upgrade. Should be done by Tuesday. I can't bloody wait for FM! I NEVER get angry or frustrated with that. I feel like I actually have control over what my team does. Too many daft things in FIFA, proper winds me up!
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Ellis_D replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 1:00AM
I've had it with this game. Just put it up for sale on Ebay and I will never come back to it again. I might never even bother with another FIFA again.
I'm an half decent player - I won a first division title last year, and usually hover between divisions 1 and 2. I'm not someone who plays on it every day and when I do play it's normally a few games, sometimes up to ten in a a session. This year I have got up to Division 3 so far.
So I'm not the best in the world, but I win far more than I lose. But since the patch I have won 0, drawn 6 and lost 8. I've just had enough. They make defending more difficult every year despite the fact it's never been hard to score goals. I'm sick to death of my CB's just leaving gaping holes and just standing there. You can't control every player at once.
I know the best players will say it's fine, and it's great for them that they can defend well. But it's not like I'm a poor player, or inexperienced, I have played the game for 25/26 years. It's not like I haven't tried to improve, I've read numerous help threads, watched loads of videos. Just defending is ridiculous. I really feel they are alienating their millions of casual players by pandering to those who want full manual controls. It's too difficult and no fun anymore. It's also not realistic that if I'm not controlling that specific player he will just stand there and do nothing and let players jog past him with the ball so easily.
So, thanks EA. Not that you will listen. Your customer service is the worst I have ever experienced and you have finally lost this loyal fan for good.
Thank God Football Manager is out soon.
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Der Tooldoktor replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 6, 2019 3:04PM
I've had it with this game. Just put it up for sale on Ebay and I will never come back to it again. I might never even bother with another FIFA again.
I'm an half decent player - I won a first division title last year, and usually hover between divisions 1 and 2. I'm not someone who plays on it every day and when I do play it's normally a few games, sometimes up to ten in a a session. This year I have got up to Division 3 so far.
So I'm not the best in the world, but I win far more than I lose. But since the patch I have won 0, drawn 6 and lost 8. I've just had enough. They make defending more difficult every year despite the fact it's never been hard to score goals. I'm sick to death of my CB's just leaving gaping holes and just standing there. You can't control every player at once.
I know the best players will say it's fine, and it's great for them that they can defend well. But it's not like I'm a poor player, or inexperienced, I have played the game for 25/26 years. It's not like I haven't tried to improve, I've read numerous help threads, watched loads of videos. Just defending is ridiculous. I really feel they are alienating their millions of casual players by pandering to those who want full manual controls. It's too difficult and no fun anymore. It's also not realistic that if I'm not controlling that specific player he will just stand there and do nothing and let players jog past him with the ball so easily.
So, thanks EA. Not that you will listen. Your customer service is the worst I have ever experienced and you have finally lost this loyal fan for good.
Thank God Football Manager is out soon.
I don't agree that defending is harder then it was on last few Fifas, especially compared to 19. With every cross the fb at back post sprinted to the centre, leaving the attacker on back post completely open and you won about every header as long as your striker came running into the box.
The defensive animations were absolutely shocking, not allowing to tackle, locking defenders on for 3-5 seconds and often in these 3-5 seconds they often ran into a striker without attempting to go for the ball and gave away pen after pen..
It's also never been this easy to tackle/block through the power up and the shooting animations delaying shots way too long, but imo the whole power up system on passing and shooting is just deft in general.
Heard so many people say that it's good that you should power your passes and shots up and that it's good that they can feel the difference when passing with Modric or Kroos then when you pass with a random 80 rated player in which I can not disagree more. I'll explain why.
Irl it takes <0,5 seconds longer to pass/shoot with a lot of power then pass/shoot with little power. There are mainly only 2 things where time has a big influence on and that's the angle in which the passes/shots are performed (when you have more time, you'd position yourself in a better angle) and the accuracy of the passes/shots. In most situations where you don't have much time to react, you're often still able to pass/shoot with a lot of power, there's only a bigger chance that they won't be as accurate.
Where players like Modric and Kroos are exceptionally good at, is being able to see the runs of teammates from their position and being able to get the ball to those teammates very accurately.
The only thing that people intend to forget, is that on Fifa you're able to see most of the post from high out, while Modric and Kroos are only be able to see it from the pitch.
Play some game with pro camera and turn the radar off and see the difference..
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Der Tooldoktor replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 1:53PM
protzbischof wrote: »The game is absolutely terrible right now. My defenders are acting like headless chicken. They cant mark players or mark runs. Patch has ruined the game. I was playing 4231 with attacking fullbacks leaving 3 players back and was doing fine with it. Now its impossible to defend with. At the same time its even harder to score the created chances. People who love to sit back and play narrow formation anti football are going to love this patch. Its 41212 only all over again in high divisions. Looks like its time to drop the game again pretty soon. No reason to keep putting up with it.
I play 41212 narrow, but playing everything but defensive, do have my full backs to stay behind, same as cdm, but cam is set to stay up, as well as my strikers. Also play balanced or pressure on error with 5 bars depth
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
BARKER1991 replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 3:54PM
The people who don’t moan. Are those who get tanked by players who are good who are finally drawing and scraping wins now when there use to getting beat day in day out
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Ash2442 replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 3:02PM
bigpokey24 wrote: »this forum should be renamed the FIFA whine forum, yall complain a lot ...just quit..... and move on to something else
Let’s all pretend it’s great...absolute tool
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
AndyisaGooden replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 2:58PM
AndyisaGooden wrote: »I've had it with this game. Just put it up for sale on Ebay and I will never come back to it again. I might never even bother with another FIFA again.
I'm an half decent player - I won a first division title last year, and usually hover between divisions 1 and 2. I'm not someone who plays on it every day and when I do play it's normally a few games, sometimes up to ten in a a session. This year I have got up to Division 3 so far.
So I'm not the best in the world, but I win far more than I lose. But since the patch I have won 0, drawn 6 and lost 8. I've just had enough. They make defending more difficult every year despite the fact it's never been hard to score goals. I'm sick to death of my CB's just leaving gaping holes and just standing there. You can't control every player at once.
I know the best players will say it's fine, and it's great for them that they can defend well. But it's not like I'm a poor player, or inexperienced, I have played the game for 25/26 years. It's not like I haven't tried to improve, I've read numerous help threads, watched loads of videos. Just defending is ridiculous. I really feel they are alienating their millions of casual players by pandering to those who want full manual controls. It's too difficult and no fun anymore. It's also not realistic that if I'm not controlling that specific player he will just stand there and do nothing and let players jog past him with the ball so easily.
So, thanks EA. Not that you will listen. Your customer service is the worst I have ever experienced and you have finally lost this loyal fan for good.
Thank God Football Manager is out soon.
FM20 out now bro, get the beta
I know mate. My laptop is at a computer shop getting an upgrade. Should be done by Tuesday. I can't bloody wait for FM! I NEVER get angry or frustrated with that. I feel like I actually have control over what my team does. Too many daft things in FIFA, proper winds me up!
Some nice new little features this year, only played for a little bit last night but enjoyed it
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
AndyisaGooden replied to Defensive positioning since update is insanely bad on November 1, 2019 2:15PM
I've had it with this game. Just put it up for sale on Ebay and I will never come back to it again. I might never even bother with another FIFA again.
I'm an half decent player - I won a first division title last year, and usually hover between divisions 1 and 2. I'm not someone who plays on it every day and when I do play it's normally a few games, sometimes up to ten in a a session. This year I have got up to Division 3 so far.
So I'm not the best in the world, but I win far more than I lose. But since the patch I have won 0, drawn 6 and lost 8. I've just had enough. They make defending more difficult every year despite the fact it's never been hard to score goals. I'm sick to death of my CB's just leaving gaping holes and just standing there. You can't control every player at once.
I know the best players will say it's fine, and it's great for them that they can defend well. But it's not like I'm a poor player, or inexperienced, I have played the game for 25/26 years. It's not like I haven't tried to improve, I've read numerous help threads, watched loads of videos. Just defending is ridiculous. I really feel they are alienating their millions of casual players by pandering to those who want full manual controls. It's too difficult and no fun anymore. It's also not realistic that if I'm not controlling that specific player he will just stand there and do nothing and let players jog past him with the ball so easily.
So, thanks EA. Not that you will listen. Your customer service is the worst I have ever experienced and you have finally lost this loyal fan for good.
Thank God Football Manager is out soon.
FM20 out now bro, get the beta
3:30 pm, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
