Legal action possible?
November 5, 2019 9:35PM Posted in Ultimate Team General Discussion
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mway replied to Legal action possible? on November 5, 2019 11:57PM
This is like politicians. If you vote a politician that you know is lying then you can´t sue the politician. Of course, you can criticize and moan about how bad he is. This is the same, you are buying a game you know it has been broken and more for many years. Then do not buy it, that´s the way they will understand the message.
I play this game because is part of the Origin Access Vault. I pay it for other games. If I have to pay 60 USD for this game I won´t do it because I know what I´m buying. I won´t vote for the same politician that is lying.
Anyway, I agree that gambling in this game needs some kind of regulation. Particularly for kids playing this game. Since this game involves gambling with real money it should be regulated and ESRB qualification reviewed. This game can´t be rated with an E. It´s not for everyone.
12:00 am, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
XxNevermindxX replied to Legal action possible? on November 5, 2019 9:44PM
XxNevermindxX wrote: »You accepted the terms and conditions
Show me where it says the outcome of a game will be predetermined..
Article 14 subsection 6
10:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
WarrenBarton replied to Legal action possible? on November 5, 2019 9:44PM
If you ever read through the terms, you will realise you have no rights of ownership of any in game content.
They can do as they please, anyway you may be able to win a money judgement and get your purchase fee back but would probably cost you more in legal fees.
Money on packs though, there’s no chance, that contract is water tight
10:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Torino21 replied to Legal action possible? on November 5, 2019 11:16PM
Haha bro be honest 😅 love the talent CFC has but this was a very, very bad decision by the ref to send off Veltman. Let us be angry. It’s actually quite nice to forget EA and their fraud for once 😆
11:17 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
RileyD replied to Legal action possible? on November 5, 2019 11:11PM
People genuinely think they can sue EA because Marcus Rashford and Lucas just destroyed them again?
Go outside and see the real world lad, stop blaming your Jan Oblak for everything that is wrong with life.
It's just a game
11:17 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Metatron replied to Legal action possible? on November 5, 2019 9:42PM
XxNevermindxX wrote: »You accepted the terms and conditions
Show me where it says the outcome of a game will be predetermined..
10:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
FUT_Moe replied to Legal action possible? on November 5, 2019 11:23PM
Haha bro be honest 😅 love the talent CFC has but this was a very, very bad decision by the ref to send off Veltman. Let us be angry. It’s actually quite nice to forget EA and their fraud for once 😆
Veltman was sent off for dissent. He was walking a fine line by screaming in the Ref's face. He was already on a yellow, he should have known better. The penalty was a correct call as it was an obvious hand ball. Blind deserved a second yellow for that lunge, no questions asked. Azpilicueta's goal was correctly ruled off by VAR due to the rules. The game should have had a minimum of 8 minutes added time. All in all, it was an entertaining game and the 4-4 draw was a fair result.
11:30 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Destin8or replied to Legal action possible? on November 5, 2019 9:45PM
XxNevermindxX wrote: »You accepted the terms and conditions
While I don't believe there's a chance in hell of any legal action, I don't believe there's anything in the terms and conditions that cover the things that go on in this game.
People pay money for packs, a gamble if you will.
If a bookmaker was to take bets and then be found to alter the outcome of said bet, however small, they would be vilified and likely prosecuted.
10:00 pm, November 5, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
CtldChaos replied to Legal action possible? on November 5, 2019 11:40PM
XxNevermindxX wrote: »You accepted the terms and conditions
While I don't believe there's a chance in hell of any legal action, I don't believe there's anything in the terms and conditions that cover the things that go on in this game.
People pay money for packs, a gamble if you will.
If a bookmaker was to take bets and then be found to alter the outcome of said bet, however small, they would be vilified and likely prosecuted.
This is the best legal argument. However, in a lot of jurisdictions there is no law that ties digital "loot boxes" to the gambling laws. There are movements to try and do that, but they are slow at best. EA is fighting this with all they have. Imagine going to Las Vegas and having the craps table move after you throw the dice to control if you win or lose in order to get you to gamble more. That is FIFA.
The analogy that EA likes to use is that FIFA packs are no different than opening a pack of baseball cards. Except that the contents of the packs are dynamically generated based upon a number of dependent variables. That is like determining what the contents of the baseball card pack would be based upon who is opening it. If that is not what they are doing, and it was near pure chance like a baseball card pack, then they would be able to publish the exact fixed odds for the packing of every single player. They can't, they can only simulate it.
12:30 am, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
CtldChaos replied to Legal action possible? on November 5, 2019 11:40PM
XxNevermindxX wrote: »You accepted the terms and conditions
While I don't believe there's a chance in hell of any legal action, I don't believe there's anything in the terms and conditions that cover the things that go on in this game.
People pay money for packs, a gamble if you will.
If a bookmaker was to take bets and then be found to alter the outcome of said bet, however small, they would be vilified and likely prosecuted.
This is the best legal argument. However, in a lot of jurisdictions there is no law that ties digital "loot boxes" to the gambling laws. There are movements to try and do that, but they are slow at best. EA is fighting this with all they have. Imagine going to Las Vegas and having the craps table move after you throw the dice to control if you win or lose in order to get you to gamble more. That is FIFA.
The analogy that EA likes to use is that FIFA packs are no different than opening a pack of baseball cards. Except that the contents of the packs are dynamically generated based upon a number of dependent variables. That is like determining what the contents of the baseball card pack would be based upon who is opening it. If that is not what they are doing, and it was near pure chance like a baseball card pack, then they would be able to publish the exact fixed odds for the packing of every single player. They can't, they can only simulate it.
12:00 am, November 6, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
