Pretend listening to customers, and then secretly undid the game patch for gameplay resonsiveness
After seeing many recently increasing discussions on forumn about the unresponsive/delay gameplay,
We can be pretty sure to say that the consensus is the worse your network is, the more your opponent is going to suffer, at least this is the case for Rivals matches.
Interestingly, in mid FIFA 19, they did try to decrease the lag compensation impact due to excessive high ping and packet loss from one side
https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-19/news/fifa-19-pitch-notes-patch-6
For those of you who don't want to do the long read of the notes, I'll just highlight the key part：
This change applies to the following game modes:
And now looking back at this pitch note, it is a complete joke. Why did you EA just undo the effort made to improve the gamplay responsiveness without even noticing your customers? They probably realized that too many people playing on **** connections and the complaints were even more after reducing lag comp, so just secretly reverted it back. They didn't even have the ball to tell the truth.
But the way they did it is just disgusting and scummy. This should be considered as fraud.
- https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/513599/wired-vs-wifi-my-experience#latest
- https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/499497/incredible-button-delay-on-rivals-and-wl-dont-buy-this-game#latest
We can be pretty sure to say that the consensus is the worse your network is, the more your opponent is going to suffer, at least this is the case for Rivals matches.
Interestingly, in mid FIFA 19, they did try to decrease the lag compensation impact due to excessive high ping and packet loss from one side
https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-19/news/fifa-19-pitch-notes-patch-6
For those of you who don't want to do the long read of the notes, I'll just highlight the key part：
This change applies to the following game modes:
- FUT Champions
- FUT Division Rivals
- FUT Online Draft
- FIFA Pro Clubs
- FIFA Co-Op Seasons
And now looking back at this pitch note, it is a complete joke. Why did you EA just undo the effort made to improve the gamplay responsiveness without even noticing your customers? They probably realized that too many people playing on **** connections and the complaints were even more after reducing lag comp, so just secretly reverted it back. They didn't even have the ball to tell the truth.
But the way they did it is just disgusting and scummy. This should be considered as fraud.
November 8, 2019 6:01AM Posted in Ultimate Team General Discussion
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ozcs_69 replied to Pretend listening to customers, and then secretly undid the game patch for gameplay resonsiveness on November 10, 2019 12:55AM
Now can comfrim that in the WL the lag compensation also works in the poor connection side's favor.
How can you confirm that?
1:00 am, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
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Robmu22 replied to Pretend listening to customers, and then secretly undid the game patch for gameplay resonsiveness on November 10, 2019 1:03AM
AlwaysDisappointed wrote: »Chriswhiteisright wrote: »BorussenBernie09 wrote: »Thank you OP! That's exactly what I'm asking myself: where did they actually improve anything concerning the responsiveness of their Online gaming modes? Gameplay feels even worse than 19.
Best thing is no one is answering on threads about this issue. Don't know where the so called Community Managers are. Communication has become worse.
The Game is dead. TM is dead, Gameplay is absolutely unenjoyable, Packweight is a rip off. I'm enjoying Destiny 2 atm.
Yeah, exactly, EA needs to realize that hiding the truth and undoing what was right is not a long term solution. This FIFA they even ditched their own servers and switched to Amazon Web Service servers to improve gameplay, which are argubaly the best in the industry. Sadly their legacy lag compensation just ruins the promising hardwork. They should just really keep going down the route they took in the last year's patch where better connections are actually better off, instead of going back to day one. That way, the people who play on bad connections will eventually realize that they actually need a proper connection, but not at the expense of the other user to play the game online properly.
If this is the case it wouldn't surprise me if some people in the community would even sabotage their own internet connection to tip the balance in their favour. EA defo need to sort it out somehow because its beyond a joke at the moment.
This will 100% start to happen. I remember back when they added lag compensation in call of duty, so many videos came out explaining how you could throttle your internet so you could have the advantage.
Already happening, many are throttling there speed with QOS.
This will only get worse as well.
Something seriously needs to change, from the positivity to release, they have messed around with the gameplay and made it much worse like making ai defending stronger. Now EVERY. SINGLE. GAME is fighting a wall of 10 intercepting and tackling machines with unlimited stamina.
1:30 am, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
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Orison replied to Pretend listening to customers, and then secretly undid the game patch for gameplay resonsiveness on November 8, 2019 10:36AM
MHoney1234 wrote: »Chriswhiteisright wrote: »BorussenBernie09 wrote: »Thank you OP! That's exactly what I'm asking myself: where did they actually improve anything concerning the responsiveness of their Online gaming modes? Gameplay feels even worse than 19.
Best thing is no one is answering on threads about this issue. Don't know where the so called Community Managers are. Communication has become worse.
The Game is dead. TM is dead, Gameplay is absolutely unenjoyable, Packweight is a rip off. I'm enjoying Destiny 2 atm.
Yeah, exactly, EA needs to realize that hiding the truth and undoing what was right is not a long term solution. This FIFA they even ditched their own servers and switched to Amazon Web Service servers to improve gameplay, which are argubaly the best in the industry. Sadly their legacy lag compensation just ruins the promising hardwork. They should just really keep going down the route they took in the last year's patch where better connections are actually better off, instead of going back to day one. That way, the people who play on bad connections will eventually realize that they actually need a proper connection, but not at the expense of the other user to play the game online properly.
If this is the case it wouldn't surprise me if some people in the community would even sabotage their own internet connection to tip the balance in their favour. EA defo need to sort it out somehow because its beyond a joke at the moment.
This is 100% happening
The game is awful when you play on a high ping tho.
People are acting as if your opponent is suffering, but for you it's completely fine. It's not, that's complete bs.
11:00 am, November 8, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
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MHoney1234 replied to Pretend listening to customers, and then secretly undid the game patch for gameplay resonsiveness on November 8, 2019 8:21AM
Chriswhiteisright wrote: »BorussenBernie09 wrote: »Thank you OP! That's exactly what I'm asking myself: where did they actually improve anything concerning the responsiveness of their Online gaming modes? Gameplay feels even worse than 19.
Best thing is no one is answering on threads about this issue. Don't know where the so called Community Managers are. Communication has become worse.
The Game is dead. TM is dead, Gameplay is absolutely unenjoyable, Packweight is a rip off. I'm enjoying Destiny 2 atm.
Yeah, exactly, EA needs to realize that hiding the truth and undoing what was right is not a long term solution. This FIFA they even ditched their own servers and switched to Amazon Web Service servers to improve gameplay, which are argubaly the best in the industry. Sadly their legacy lag compensation just ruins the promising hardwork. They should just really keep going down the route they took in the last year's patch where better connections are actually better off, instead of going back to day one. That way, the people who play on bad connections will eventually realize that they actually need a proper connection, but not at the expense of the other user to play the game online properly.
If this is the case it wouldn't surprise me if some people in the community would even sabotage their own internet connection to tip the balance in their favour. EA defo need to sort it out somehow because its beyond a joke at the moment.
This is 100% happening
8:30 am, November 8, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
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I SiR MartY I replied to Pretend listening to customers, and then secretly undid the game patch for gameplay resonsiveness on November 8, 2019 10:51AM
AlwaysDisappointed wrote: »Chriswhiteisright wrote: »BorussenBernie09 wrote: »Thank you OP! That's exactly what I'm asking myself: where did they actually improve anything concerning the responsiveness of their Online gaming modes? Gameplay feels even worse than 19.
Best thing is no one is answering on threads about this issue. Don't know where the so called Community Managers are. Communication has become worse.
The Game is dead. TM is dead, Gameplay is absolutely unenjoyable, Packweight is a rip off. I'm enjoying Destiny 2 atm.
Yeah, exactly, EA needs to realize that hiding the truth and undoing what was right is not a long term solution. This FIFA they even ditched their own servers and switched to Amazon Web Service servers to improve gameplay, which are argubaly the best in the industry. Sadly their legacy lag compensation just ruins the promising hardwork. They should just really keep going down the route they took in the last year's patch where better connections are actually better off, instead of going back to day one. That way, the people who play on bad connections will eventually realize that they actually need a proper connection, but not at the expense of the other user to play the game online properly.
If this is the case it wouldn't surprise me if some people in the community would even sabotage their own internet connection to tip the balance in their favour. EA defo need to sort it out somehow because its beyond a joke at the moment.
This will 100% start to happen. I remember back when they added lag compensation in call of duty, so many videos came out explaining how you could throttle your internet so you could have the advantage.
This is still a thing in other games. Apex Legends is one that comes to mind, if you have bad connection or intentionally throttle your speed, you get a huge advantage, to everyone else you start to glitch and teleport around and on your screen, you don't suffer anything.
In the higher ranks of the competitive mode you get a lot of people doing it on purpose so they start to teleport around making it almost impossible to hit them because one second they're infront of you and the next, they're 3 feet to the side with a shotgun pointed straight at your head.
The patch EA added last FIFA that gave the person with better connection less lag didn't work, it seems from those posts and people I've spoken to that playing on WIFI/hotspots actually gives you an advantage, wouldn't surprise me if more and more people do it since its clear EA have no clue how to fix this one sided lag/button delay issue.
11:00 am, November 8, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
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Eric18 replied to Pretend listening to customers, and then secretly undid the game patch for gameplay resonsiveness on November 8, 2019 7:42AM
BorussenBernie09 wrote: »Thank you OP! That's exactly what I'm asking myself: where did they actually improve anything concerning the responsiveness of their Online gaming modes? Gameplay feels even worse than 19.
Best thing is no one is answering on threads about this issue. Don't know where the so called Community Managers are. Communication has become worse.
The Game is dead. TM is dead, Gameplay is absolutely unenjoyable, Packweight is a rip off. I'm enjoying Destiny 2 atm.
Yeah, exactly, EA needs to realize that hiding the truth and undoing what was right is not a long term solution. This FIFA they even ditched their own servers and switched to Amazon Web Service servers to improve gameplay, which are argubaly the best in the industry. Sadly their legacy lag compensation just ruins the promising hardwork. They should just really keep going down the route they took in the last year's patch where better connections are actually better off, instead of going back to day one. That way, the people who play on bad connections will eventually realize that they actually need a proper connection, but not at the expense of the other user to play the game online properly.
8:00 am, November 8, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
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Eric18 replied to Pretend listening to customers, and then secretly undid the game patch for gameplay resonsiveness on November 10, 2019 12:57AM
I have less than 0.1% packet loss rate and less than 25ms ping on my wired, yet I'm lagging in this weekend league. Switched to WiFi, the lag is gone, laughable.
1:00 am, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
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Eric18 replied to Pretend listening to customers, and then secretly undid the game patch for gameplay resonsiveness on November 10, 2019 12:49AM
Now can comfrim that in the WL the lag compensation also works in the poor connection side's favor.
1:00 am, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
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Covkilla91mob replied to Pretend listening to customers, and then secretly undid the game patch for gameplay resonsiveness on November 8, 2019 10:41AM
Yes I was saying this other day how 19 had that update to help better net. Then alot complained then they ruined it again .
Like its funny how the game is so good in smooth connection each year to me .
19 was a joke for abuse but I'm happy to say in good gameplay I liked it to play atleast .
20 I'd say same for it but 90% or more feel delay
11:00 am, November 8, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
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Chriswhiteisright replied to Pretend listening to customers, and then secretly undid the game patch for gameplay resonsiveness on November 8, 2019 8:00AM
BorussenBernie09 wrote: »Thank you OP! That's exactly what I'm asking myself: where did they actually improve anything concerning the responsiveness of their Online gaming modes? Gameplay feels even worse than 19.
Best thing is no one is answering on threads about this issue. Don't know where the so called Community Managers are. Communication has become worse.
The Game is dead. TM is dead, Gameplay is absolutely unenjoyable, Packweight is a rip off. I'm enjoying Destiny 2 atm.
Yeah, exactly, EA needs to realize that hiding the truth and undoing what was right is not a long term solution. This FIFA they even ditched their own servers and switched to Amazon Web Service servers to improve gameplay, which are argubaly the best in the industry. Sadly their legacy lag compensation just ruins the promising hardwork. They should just really keep going down the route they took in the last year's patch where better connections are actually better off, instead of going back to day one. That way, the people who play on bad connections will eventually realize that they actually need a proper connection, but not at the expense of the other user to play the game online properly.
If this is the case it wouldn't surprise me if some people in the community would even sabotage their own internet connection to tip the balance in their favour. EA defo need to sort it out somehow because its beyond a joke at the moment.
8:00 am, November 8, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
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BorussenBernie09 replied to Pretend listening to customers, and then secretly undid the game patch for gameplay resonsiveness on November 8, 2019 6:09AM
Thank you OP! That's exactly what I'm asking myself: where did they actually improve anything concerning the responsiveness of their Online gaming modes? Gameplay feels even worse than 19.
Best thing is no one is answering on threads about this issue. Don't know where the so called Community Managers are. Communication has become worse.
The Game is dead. TM is dead, Gameplay is absolutely unenjoyable, Packweight is a rip off. I'm enjoying Destiny 2 atm.
6:30 am, November 8, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
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Anarki301 replied to Pretend listening to customers, and then secretly undid the game patch for gameplay resonsiveness on November 8, 2019 8:16AM
...so just secretly reverted it back. They didn't even have the ball to tell the truth.
But the way they did it is just disgusting and scummy. This should be considered as fraud.
Sorry mate, but this is not true, I remember clearly that they informed us about reverting that patch.
8:30 am, November 8, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
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AlwaysDisappointed replied to Pretend listening to customers, and then secretly undid the game patch for gameplay resonsiveness on November 8, 2019 8:06AM
Chriswhiteisright wrote: »BorussenBernie09 wrote: »Thank you OP! That's exactly what I'm asking myself: where did they actually improve anything concerning the responsiveness of their Online gaming modes? Gameplay feels even worse than 19.
Best thing is no one is answering on threads about this issue. Don't know where the so called Community Managers are. Communication has become worse.
The Game is dead. TM is dead, Gameplay is absolutely unenjoyable, Packweight is a rip off. I'm enjoying Destiny 2 atm.
Yeah, exactly, EA needs to realize that hiding the truth and undoing what was right is not a long term solution. This FIFA they even ditched their own servers and switched to Amazon Web Service servers to improve gameplay, which are argubaly the best in the industry. Sadly their legacy lag compensation just ruins the promising hardwork. They should just really keep going down the route they took in the last year's patch where better connections are actually better off, instead of going back to day one. That way, the people who play on bad connections will eventually realize that they actually need a proper connection, but not at the expense of the other user to play the game online properly.
If this is the case it wouldn't surprise me if some people in the community would even sabotage their own internet connection to tip the balance in their favour. EA defo need to sort it out somehow because its beyond a joke at the moment.
This will 100% start to happen. I remember back when they added lag compensation in call of duty, so many videos came out explaining how you could throttle your internet so you could have the advantage.
8:30 am, November 8, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
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Pretend listening customers, secretly undid patch gameplay resonsivenessAfter seeing recently increasing discussions forumn about unresponsive/delay gameplay, https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/513599/wired-vs-wifi-my-experience#latest
https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/499497/incredible-button-delay-on-rivals-and-wl-dont-buy-this-game#latest little manipulation experiment network connection https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/513230/does-anyone-feel-lag-compensation-works-differently-in-rival-and-fut-champs pretty consensus worse opponent going suffer, least Rivals matches.
Interestingly, decrease compensation impact excessive packet https://www.ea.com/games/fifa/fifa-19/news/fifa-19-pitch-notes-patch-6 those don't notes, highlight part： improvements responsiveness situations where opponent's experiencing latency.
This change applies following modes: Champions
FUT Division Rivals
FUT Online Draft
FIFA Clubs
FIFA Co-Op Seasons looking pitch note, complete joke. effort improve gamplay without noticing customers? probably realized people playing connections complaints after reducing comp, reverted back. didn't truth.
But disgusting scummy. should considered fraud.
