Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA
EA should put out an apology and give people their champions points back.
November 10, 2019 11:49AM Posted in
rzoc replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 1:14PM
EA too busy sucking off pros to care about standard players
1:30 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Torn4do replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 11:55AM
Just had one game in FUT champs and turned the machine off midway through as it’s unplayable, clearly the other side is fine as they are sharp passing, turning well, shooting hard, when I go for a tackle that’s well timed I go between the player and the ball, passes drop short, shots at keeper every time.
Why is it we have a game that can’t be played at the time you want to play it??
It’s a joke!
12:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
TitanX replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 3:59PM
There is no hope. We will just continue getting ignored. Just accept it
4:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Theomanny replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:19PM
My last game. I just left the game in the first half. This guy from germany was skilling everywhere with no delay while i cant move. Stopped this wl on 7 wins. No way am playing a video game dictated bu one sided connection. Until i am able to block all german players this might be my last fifa. While not just start the wl by automatically giving the germans their wins and save the rest of us the hassle. Even cod is matchmaking via ping. My ping to cod server is 15ms.
12:30 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Theomanny replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:07PM
I just cant okay it like this. Hey oh promo everyone. Mugs buying packs like mheen
12:30 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
SomeNextGuy replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 11:56AM
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Skinner249 replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:38PM
Tried to play 1 game earlier and just couldn't. Passes pea rolling in a different direction, ball bouncing off players shins and ricocheting 10 yards away, attackers/the ball glitching through my defenders.
Theres really no point playing this game online for 16 hours of a day, it's as if the game doesnt even know your players are even there
1:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
ScorePlayer replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:54PM
this weekend? it's been like this from the start, those poor hamsters don't get enough food
The early access was fantastic when it came to responsiveness, that’s actually the reason I bought the game.
1:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
SP300x replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 3:58PM
Unbelievable
4:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
RossR91 replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 11:56AM
It is never EVER going to get any better, they are the most selfish company out there and were just all so gullible for buying it every year thinking it's going to be a better game, it's the same game with new packaging simple as.
12:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Phoenixtone replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:37PM
Pablofsi05 wrote: »Servers need to be eradicated or at least give us an option to use P2P, and the team responsible for pushing servers as the primary netcode option have to be fired. Servers double input delay, redirect people to 4.000 km away servers, increase latency to 150 - 250ms when you could be playing under 10, 15ms with half the delay of that latency on P2P, create high traffic delay, don't take into account bad peering, routing, give an unfair input delay advantage to the people closer to them.
Saw your post elsewhere about the benefits of each. Good explanation mate. Maybe hit up EA, sounds like they could do with you!
1:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Pepe Le DiLzZ replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:03PM
Ea don't apologise.
12:30 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Pepe Le DiLzZ replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:03PM
Ea don't apologise.
4:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Pablofsi05 replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 1:10PM
I think this game also needs to go back to the first or second patch it had with just a few specific changes that were actually a progress. Most of the changes have just come to derail the gameplay. I can't even defend manually because the players never react quickly to my manual directing, even on Squad Battles.
1:30 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Pablofsi05 replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:34PM
It's this simple people. There are 3 types of netcode regarding the connectivity model they use: servers, P2P and rollback netcode (predictive). If EA really wanted to eliminate input delay from the game they would develop either a P2P or predictive netcode iteration of the netcode, these two types are focused on mitigating input delay as much as possible for both sides, without the interaction of a third party which doubles input delay (because data has to go to the server and then travel back to you, increasing input delay by an extra 100%). Predictive netcode would allow you to play almost as if you were playing Squad Battles, the difference between Squad Battles artificial input delay and Rivals would be almost impossible to notice. With P2P, that difference would still be just a little bit noticeable, provided that matchmaking is modified to search for lowest latency opponents instead of geographically closer to the player.
It's servers netcode which is disappointing everyone by causing 150 - 250ms latency when you could be playing with people in your own country, or locally in the same city/state at 10 - 15ms. But no, EA and the AWFUL network team decide to take the longest route redirecting people to servers, which need to disappear, in Germany when you are in UK and that highly increases latency. This is happening to most users in most countries because in most there aren't and there will never be servers. Even if there were servers in all countries which is financially and logistically impossible that would still mean you'd get double the input delay you'd be getting with the same latency on P2P or predictive netcode.
P2P and rollback netcode are far superior technologically advancements and servers netcode is from the '90s. We need to stop asking for servers and ask for P2P instead. Whenever you ask them "to improve servers" you perpetuate this issue.
1:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Pablofsi05 replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:22PM
That is a clear example of the existance of servers causing an unnatural redirection when you both could be playing on a direct and perfect connection with no third parties involved increasing a hop and doubling input delay, not to mention that you surely have a really bad latency to the german server which is the point I made above about being redirected to far away servers and being at an unfair delayu disadvantage.
You guys could be playing at about 50ms on P2P with only 3 or 4 input delay animation frames, instead of 20 or 30 you suffered while the german player was playing smoothly being close to the server.
12:30 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Pablofsi05 replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:16PM
Servers need to be eradicated or at least give us an option to use P2P, and the team responsible for pushing servers as the primary netcode option have to be fired. Servers double input delay, redirect people to 4.000 km away servers, increase latency to 150 - 250ms when you could be playing under 10, 15ms with half the delay of that latency on P2P, create high traffic delay, don't take into account bad peering, routing, give an unfair input delay advantage to the people closer to them.
1:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Pablofsi05 replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:16PM
Servers need to be eradicated or at least give us an option to use P2P, and the team responsible for pushing servers as the primary netcode option have to be fired. Servers double input delay, redirect people to 4.000 km away servers, increase latency to 150 - 250ms when you could be playing under 10, 15ms with half the delay of that latency on P2P, create high traffic delay, don't take into account bad peering, routing, give an unfair input delay advantage to the people closer to them.
12:30 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Mrhey31 replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 11:58AM
Agree!! This was unplayable the entire WL. Made gold3 but what a struggle.
12:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
MrMack08 replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:46PM
this weekend? it's been like this from the start, those poor hamsters don't get enough food
1:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Massman replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:56PM
today was a new low for me
got disconneted 3 times in a row (never happend to me before) and ofcoz all counted as.losses
another 2 games that was a lagfest
was 13-6
now i am 13 - 11
never playing again on sunday daytime
1:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Janscharie replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 1:33PM
Greezyweezy101 wrote: »Got a few decent games at 3am this morning.
Just played 2 matches now, completely different game!
Its not just the delay, it literally plays differently rather than being the same but slower.
Defenders are clueless, attackers don't make runs, clear fouls are ignored.
I can't be bothered anymore, I wish I had never got into to FUT, More stress than it's worth
Pathetic
Yup, quit playing fut this week
2:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Greezyweezy101 replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:51PM
Got a few decent games at 3am this morning.
Just played 2 matches now, completely different game!
Its not just the delay, it literally plays differently rather than being the same but slower.
Defenders are clueless, attackers don't make runs, clear fouls are ignored.
I can't be bothered anymore, I wish I had never got into to FUT, More stress than it's worth
Pathetic
1:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Gooders66 replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:54PM
Greezyweezy101 wrote: »Got a few decent games at 3am this morning.
Just played 2 matches now, completely different game!
Its not just the delay, it literally plays differently rather than being the same but slower.
Defenders are clueless, attackers don't make runs, clear fouls are ignored.
I can't be bothered anymore, I wish I had never got into to FUT, More stress than it's worth
Pathetic
I agree 100%,played earlier and my players rashford, vardi just didn't make any runs, I dont get it, why aren't they? That's not delay is it, that's just a broken game surely?
1:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Gooders66 replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 11:51AM
Totally agree, it is the worse it has ever been in all the years I've been playing fifa, this has to be sorted, there's only so much people will take before they give up playing and move on.
12:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Dronegan replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:00PM
They dont care. Should be obvious by now.
This is how it will be rest of Fifa20.
5:30 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Dronegan replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:00PM
They dont care. Should be obvious by now.
This is how it will be rest of Fifa20.
12:30 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Dragon0102 replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:43PM
Pepe Le DiLzZ wrote: »Ea don't apologise.
Apologize....haha.... Check out EA's words - Fifa 20 is awesome.
https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/comment/9124978#Comment_9124978
And people buying fifa points are responsible for this.
1:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
CtldChaos replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 4:32PM
Pablofsi05 wrote: »It's this simple people. There are 3 types of netcode regarding the connectivity model they use: servers, P2P and rollback netcode (predictive). If EA really wanted to eliminate input delay from the game they would develop either a P2P or predictive netcode iteration of the netcode, these two types are focused on mitigating input delay as much as possible for both sides, without the interaction of a third party which doubles input delay (because data has to go to the server and then travel back to you, increasing input delay by an extra 100%). Predictive netcode would allow you to play almost as if you were playing Squad Battles, the difference between Squad Battles artificial input delay and Rivals would be almost impossible to notice. With P2P, that difference would still be just a little bit noticeable, provided that matchmaking is modified to search for lowest latency opponents instead of geographically closer to the player.
It's servers netcode which is disappointing everyone by causing 150 - 250ms latency when you could be playing with people in your own country, or locally in the same city/state at 10 - 15ms. But no, EA and the AWFUL network team decide to take the longest route redirecting people to servers, which need to disappear, in Germany when you are in UK and that highly increases latency. This is happening to most users in most countries because in most there aren't and there will never be servers. Even if there were servers in all countries which is financially and logistically impossible that would still mean you'd get double the input delay you'd be getting with the same latency on P2P or predictive netcode.
P2P and rollback netcode are far superior technologically advancements and servers netcode is from the '90s. We need to stop asking for servers and ask for P2P instead. Whenever you ask them "to improve servers" you perpetuate this issue.
Technically, there is nothing wrong with what you are saying. However, how would you prevent me from manipulating my router to get an amazing host advantage and/or launching a DoS against my opponent because getting their direct IP would be childs play. In short, P2P may not be as simple a solution as you think because we would all be back here complaining about several different types of exploits being used.
5:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Bouboe112 replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:44PM
WORST GAMEPLAY ONLINE IN FIFA HISTORY. UNPLAYABLE. STOP PLAYING THIS GAME!!!!!
1:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Bouboe112 replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:33PM
They dont care. Should be obvious by now.
This is how it will be rest of Fifa20.
Well i guarantee you no one will be playing this game past christmanms then. Just yesterday one of the biggest streamers (nick28t) couldnt stream the game anymore and called it a night. Thats someone that plays Fifa for his JOB. LET THAT SINK IN. Even if you get paid money to play this game you would rather not do it. And we are only 1,5 months in the game LIFECYCLE of 12 months. Yeah ea will bleed to dead if they let this stay in this state.
MOST HORRIBLE GAMEPLAY IVE EVER PLAYED IN FIFA AND I PLAYED ALL FIFAS EXTENSIVELY SINCE 2002
1:00 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Bouboe112 replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:28PM
They dont care. Should be obvious by now.
This is how it will be rest of Fifa20.
Well i guarantee you no one will be playing this game past christmanms then. Just yesterday one of the biggest streamers (nick28t) couldnt stream the game anymore and called it a night. Thats someone that plays Fifa for his JOB. LET THAT SINK IN. Even if you get paid money to play this game you would rather not do it. And we are only 1,5 months in the game LIFECYCLE of 12 months. Yeah ea will bleed to dead if they let this stay in this state.
MOST HORRIBLE GAMEPLAY IVE EVER PLAYED IN FIFA AND I PLAYED ALL FIFAS EXTENSIVELY SINCE 2002
12:30 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
Bouboe112 replied to Gameplay this weekend deserves an apology from EA on November 10, 2019 12:01PM
Its beeen like this for weeks wtf. From the Netherlands. Gameplay is the most disgracefull, boring, BS i have ever played. And i played every fifa extensively since 2002
12:30 pm, November 10, 2019 Ultimate Team General Discussion
